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Post by nicolas on Sept 9, 2005 9:49:48 GMT -5
Beware Tommy Sands because.... Sly-ing .... Fly-ing...
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Post by jojo on Sept 9, 2005 18:59:58 GMT -5
My take on "gee what happened he used to be dead" is.. different timeline.. Yeah it sounds out there, and of course it eludes any proof other than a collection of shared memories. (I've had enough people agree with me about remembering certain people's demise and then they are "here" again) What's the explanation? Maybe in the writings of Philip K. Dick, darned if I know.
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Post by nicolas on Sept 10, 2005 8:43:13 GMT -5
Searchin for Barbara Luna's photos I've found out that one: Mmmmnn ... that guy ... it seems to me I've already seen him somewhere ... I don't remember where... What? Tommy Sands? No I don't know who is... but... I've already seen somewhere that guy... ... to be continued ...
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Post by Athenais on Sept 10, 2005 10:40:40 GMT -5
His middle name is Adrian.
Hmmmmnn....
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Post by nicolas on Sept 11, 2005 10:24:34 GMT -5
... so I started to search for photos about "Tommy Sands" on the Net. I've found that one: Ah .... now the curtain is getting clearer ... He "had" a clear, fantastic "compatibility" with Sylvester Stallone (the true one) ... ... to be continued ...
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 11, 2005 21:43:24 GMT -5
Nicolas, great find! Something struck me when I saw this set of pics on the last post. I remember how much "Sly's" eyes were droopy, like the true JPM. Perhaps that was something that was appealing about Sly. Funny how his eyes are no longer "droopy". I recall a story on one of those "entertainment" programs saying that he had "corrective" surgery on his eyes, so they wouldn't droop. Why would anyone want to change that look? Hmmmmm. Just decided to change his "droopy eyes"? Like all of the other spins of other celebs who had been in "accidents" and/or had alcohol or drug addictions. Amazing!
Funny that this guy is in a picture with the replacement for Faye Dunnaway too...
Is there an island, or training camp for doppelgangers? Where they take people and give them "extreme" makeovers to not only look like a celebrity, but brainwash them and give them false memories of these stars, study their moves and their voices and then spit them out as these stars?
Funny how these replacements "come out" after certain celebs have been in accidents, or long sabbaticals...
Wouldn't it strange to have "Extreme Celebrity Replacement Makeover" as a new reality program? Hosted by Sir Faul himself....
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Post by nicolas on Sept 12, 2005 16:16:32 GMT -5
Nicolas, great find! Something struck me when I saw this set of pics on the last post. I remember how much "Sly's" eyes were droopy, like the true JPM. Wow LovelyRita... exactly -1- ! Perhaps that was something that was appealing about Sly. Funny how his eyes are no longer "droopy". I recall a story on one of those "entertainment" programs saying that he had "corrective" surgery on his eyes, so they wouldn't droop. Why would anyone want to change that look? Hmmmmm. Just decided to change his "droopy eyes"? Like all of the other spins of other celebs who had been in "accidents" and/or had alcohol or drug addictions. Amazing! Wow LovelyRita... exactly -2- ! Funny that this guy is in a picture with the replacement for Faye Dunnaway too... They belong to the same agency... Is there an island, or training camp for doppelgangers? Where they take people and give them "extreme" makeovers to not only look like a celebrity, but brainwash them and give them false memories of these stars, study their moves and their voices and then spit them out as these stars? Funny how these replacements "come out" after certain celebs have been in accidents, or long sabbaticals... Wouldn't it strange to have "Extreme Celebrity Replacement Makeover" as a new reality program? Hosted by Sir Faul himself.... Excellent post.... ... and... Are you ready for: There are three features perfectly matching .... look accurately...at the cheek the forehead and at the side of the mouth ... (Three coincidences are a proof ...)
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 13, 2005 17:32:13 GMT -5
Do you have any pics of the true Sly? Like JPM, it's been so long since we saw the real one, that we've become accustomed to the replacement's faces. Interesting Barbara Luna and Tommy are part of the same "agency"...hmmmm interesting.
Another thing that strikes me about celebs...there are many times they announce that some celebrity had died and I ask someone, I thought they were already dead? Case in point, Barbara Bel Geddes who played Miss Elly on Dallas. They said she recently died from lung cancer. But I thought she had died while the show was still on the air first run. If you recall, Donna Reed replaced her on the show, but viewers were outraged and they fired Donna Reed. Now, Did Miss Elly die twice? Another point, Peter Jennings recently passed with lung cancer, she supposedly died from it and Christopher Reeves widow now has lung cancer. Is there a run with lung cancer these days? Bob Marley died from lung cancer?
Does the "system" inject cancer cells into some famous people to scare the masses? Hmmm.
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Post by iknowstuff on Sept 14, 2005 0:00:28 GMT -5
Barbara took ill for a season or two and had to be replaced for a while but NO - there was no announcement of her death then.
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Post by nicolas on Sept 14, 2005 1:45:30 GMT -5
Do you have any pics of the true Sly? Like JPM, it's been so long since we saw the real one, that we've become accustomed to the replacement's faces. Interesting Barbara Luna and Tommy are part of the same "agency"...hmmmm interesting. Another thing that strikes me about celebs...there are many times they announce that some celebrity had died and I ask someone, I thought they were already dead? Case in point, Barbara Bel Geddes who played Miss Elly on Dallas. They said she recently died from lung cancer. But I thought she had died while the show was still on the air first run. Who? That one? That was taken from Barbara Luna official web site. I have other photos of the true Sylvester Stallone. I started to be suspicious when I looked at Rocky 1 on TV. It looked like completely redone.
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 15, 2005 10:51:33 GMT -5
Excellent find Nicolas. You never cease to amaze me with your discoveries! That is eerie...the Barbara Luna-Dallas connection and the bit about Miss Elly. So she was slumming with ol'JR before she became Faux Dunaway.
I wonder when the change from SLy to Fly occurred? Perhaps after RAMBO?
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Post by nicolas on Sept 15, 2005 15:33:36 GMT -5
It could seem incredible but the distance between the nose base and the eyes line is equalized. Tommy has a wider skull and eyes distance Who is that woman dancing with Tommy Sands/"Fly"
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 16, 2005 21:59:10 GMT -5
Sly has a narrower chin, narrower cheeks, his eyes are wide-eyed, Fly's eyes are not. Fly's nose is wider, fuller cheeks. Fly has a crooked mouth. Adam's apple don't match. Ears don't match. Looking at the forehead, the hairline doesn't even match. Even if you consider aging and receding hairline, the width of the forehead is wider on Fly than Sly. His lips don't resemble Sly's. It matches Tommy more than Sly. The only thing that is different from Tommy to Fly is Tommy had some lip injections to try to mimmic the lips of Sly. Sly's face is longer and narrower, while Fly is more square. I don't see one feature matching. Just like Marianne Faithful, and Paul. Sly's lip did an "Elvis" type of curl(For lack of a better word) when he smiled. Fly's smile goes crooked. Fly looks more like a younger Rock Hudson (Mc Millian and Wife period) than he does Sylvester Stallone. They don't even look like the same man. I know what we're told, but that does not look like the same man. Great post Nicolas. The only thing left to match would be a close up eye like you did with Don Knotts/Frian. But this picture pretty much says it all. Sly has a brother Frank Stallone, who sang, need to find a pic of him.
As for the woman who's dancing with Fly, hmmmm, it's not a supermodel, this isn't like him. He's usually hooked up with supermodels. It looks like Cathy Bates. Great find. I would have never really thought about Sly being replaced. Any clue to be a possible replacement, any extended time out of the spotlight, and then when you see them they look really strange. Aging and drugs or alcohol does not change eyeball placement, necks, ears, width or narrowness of face. Paul, Brian, Sylvie, Eric, Faye Dunaway and Sly...Who else?
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 16, 2005 22:05:43 GMT -5
I just googled for Frank Stallone site and clicked on photos and you would not believe what I found. Check it out. www.frankstallone.com/photos/mccartney.htmlFly, Frank and Faul...I'm wondering if the guy in the middle is the real Frank Stallone.....
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 16, 2005 22:22:16 GMT -5
Trying to find pics online of Sly (circa 1976) when the first Rocky came out is almost impossible. Gee, I wonder why. I did find one at the Oscars, but it wasn't a good pic. It's getting late, I'll try searching another time when I have more time to look.
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Post by nicolas on Sept 17, 2005 3:31:45 GMT -5
Excellent find Nicolas. You never cease to amaze me with your discoveries! That is eerie...the Barbara Luna-Dallas connection and the bit about Miss Elly. So she was slumming with ol'JR before she became Faux Dunaway. I wonder when the change from SLy to Fly occurred? Perhaps after RAMBO? Rambo (First Blood) was an hard film AGAINST U.S. Army internal behaviour. Sly has a narrower chin, narrower cheeks, his eyes are wide-eyed, Fly's eyes are not. Fly's nose is wider, fuller cheeks. Fly has a crooked mouth. Adam's apple don't match. Ears don't match. Looking at the forehead, the hairline doesn't even match. Even if you consider aging and receding hairline, the width of the forehead is wider on Fly than Sly. His lips don't resemble Sly's. It matches Tommy more than Sly. The only thing that is different from Tommy to Fly is Tommy had some lip injections to try to mimmic the lips of Sly. Sly's face is longer and narrower, while Fly is more square. I don't see one feature matching. Just like Marianne Faithful, and Paul. Sly's lip did an "Elvis" type of curl(For lack of a better word) when he smiled. Fly's smile goes crooked. Fly looks more like a younger Rock Hudson (Mc Millian and Wife period) than he does Sylvester Stallone. They don't even look like the same man. I know what we're told, but that does not look like the same man. Great post Nicolas. The only thing left to match would be a close up eye like you did with Don Knotts/Frian. But this picture pretty much says it all. Sly has a brother Frank Stallone, who sang, need to find a pic of him. As for the woman who's dancing with Fly, hmmmm, it's not a supermodel, this isn't like him. He's usually hooked up with supermodels. It looks like Cathy Bates. Great find. I would have never really thought about Sly being replaced. Any clue to be a possible replacement, any extended time out of the spotlight, and then when you see them they look really strange. Aging and drugs or alcohol does not change eyeball placement, necks, ears, width or narrowness of face. Paul, Brian, Sylvie, Eric, Faye Dunaway and Sly...Who else? Perfect analysis. There's a fog upon L.A. And my friends have lost their way...George was in India. He performed alone "Blue Jay Way" as a solo song (it was indeed). The other Beatles except him flew to America to meet people of the "Double Agency" After that America (U.S.A) took control of the Beatles. That was what "they" wanted, their aim.
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 17, 2005 23:44:48 GMT -5
It's really hard to find a picture of Sly from the original Rocky online. I came upon one, but I don't know how to send that image to the threads like alot of the folks do. It was not from an offical site, or a regular photo gallery. It's like the PR people only want the recent photos of Fly to be the image people remember. What I call photo faking, much like the spin doctors do with the images of JPM being doctored to look more like Faul, like stretching the real JPM's face, splicing images from a couple of Faul's, etc. The image of the original Rocky is practically gone from anything I can find. If there are "Rocky" images, it's from later Rocky films when his face had thinned out after working out.
But something I can say, when Sly was younger, and a little bit heavier you can see a resemblance between him and his brother. You look at the picture posted above with Faul and you don't see any resemblance. Gee, how could that happen? Duh.....
I know celebs age, and they get cosmetic surgery or botox, but there's a difference between a few nips and tucks, nose jobs, eye lifts, and then major differences in facial features, and looking freaky.
Something comes to mind from the movie "Death Becomes Her". The characters played by Goldie Hawn and Meryl Streep were people who didn't want to get old. So they go to a witch who brings them a fountain of youth, but at a cost, they had their youth, but they had to remove themselves from society. They went to this place where stars, who we thought were dead, like Marilyn, Jim Morrison, Elvis, etc were there partying in this huge mansion. But they could not be part of the outside world.
I've learned that alot of what really goes on is hidden in fictional stories. I'm not saying that somewhere Elvis and Marilyn live on some secluded old celeb mansion being kept alive by a witch. But maybe some secret secluded camp that either burned out celebs, controversial celebs, people who butted heads with the "system" and had been tortured while the "Double Agency" produces these replacement celebs, undergoing strange surgeries to look like these people. Call them change agents, putting out music, or tv, or films acceptable by the elite to propogate their propaganda.
Either these celebs knew too much, or revealed something they shouldn't have, but they were removed systematically. I have to think these secret societies performed some strange rituals on the real celebs in some cases, whether the way they died, or perhaps before they were killed.
Something else that you posted Nicolas," America took control of the Beatles." I think about Alan Klein and the battle between him and John with Faul and Linda's brother Lee Eastman. What part did these two lawyers play in this tragedy of the Beatles' last years? Allan Klein had his hand in the Rolling Stone's music and I don't recall the details of that, but it wasn't good. It just has me wondering if he was placed into the picture to make a mess of the Beatles' recordings as well.
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Post by TheDZ on Sept 18, 2005 12:57:22 GMT -5
Excellent find Nicolas. You never cease to amaze me with your discoveries! That is eerie...the Barbara Luna-Dallas connection and the bit about Miss Elly. So she was slumming with ol'JR before she became Faux Dunaway. I wonder when the change from SLy to Fly occurred? Perhaps after RAMBO? Rambo (First Blood) was an hard film AGAINST U.S. Army internal behaviour. Sly has a narrower chin, narrower cheeks, his eyes are wide-eyed, Fly's eyes are not. Fly's nose is wider, fuller cheeks. Fly has a crooked mouth. Adam's apple don't match. Ears don't match. Looking at the forehead, the hairline doesn't even match. Even if you consider aging and receding hairline, the width of the forehead is wider on Fly than Sly. His lips don't resemble Sly's. It matches Tommy more than Sly. The only thing that is different from Tommy to Fly is Tommy had some lip injections to try to mimmic the lips of Sly. Sly's face is longer and narrower, while Fly is more square. I don't see one feature matching. Just like Marianne Faithful, and Paul. Sly's lip did an "Elvis" type of curl(For lack of a better word) when he smiled. Fly's smile goes crooked. Fly looks more like a younger Rock Hudson (Mc Millian and Wife period) than he does Sylvester Stallone. They don't even look like the same man. I know what we're told, but that does not look like the same man. Great post Nicolas. The only thing left to match would be a close up eye like you did with Don Knotts/Frian. But this picture pretty much says it all. Sly has a brother Frank Stallone, who sang, need to find a pic of him. As for the woman who's dancing with Fly, hmmmm, it's not a supermodel, this isn't like him. He's usually hooked up with supermodels. It looks like Cathy Bates. Great find. I would have never really thought about Sly being replaced. Any clue to be a possible replacement, any extended time out of the spotlight, and then when you see them they look really strange. Aging and drugs or alcohol does not change eyeball placement, necks, ears, width or narrowness of face. Paul, Brian, Sylvie, Eric, Faye Dunaway and Sly...Who else? Perfect analysis. There's a fog upon L.A. And my friends have lost their way...George was in India. He performed alone "Blue Jay Way" as a solo song (it was indeed). The other Beatles except him flew to America to meet people of the "Double Agency" After that America (U.S.A) took control of the Beatles. That was what "they" wanted, their aim. Excellent Nic, I've been digging and thinking similar things.. I've formulated a theory that the US military/intel were using the Beatles/Beach Boys as a form of communication system... The Manson affair was tied into this perhaps as a distraction/coverup from some covert/black ops... back in the us-sr 71 Blackbird? from Beales air force base.. into to the line of a dark black night at mach 3+ to spy on Russia... unstart=helter skelter..they'll be over soon they said, now they've lost themselves instead... the timelines match... I always thought Sinatra was involved somehow... btw is 'Jackie Stallone' really female?
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 19, 2005 10:16:20 GMT -5
She/it looks like an older version of Michael Jackson. That is a mutant.
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Post by Athenais on Sept 21, 2005 15:10:49 GMT -5
Rocky Raccoon
Now somewhere in the black mountain hills of Dakota There lived a young boy named Rocky Raccoon And one day his woman ran off with another guy Hit young Rocky in the Rocky didn't like that He said I'm gonna get that boy So one day he walked into town Booked himself a room in the local saloon.
Rocky Raccoon checked into his room Only to find Gideon's bible Rocky had come equipped with a gun To shoot off the legs of his rival His rival it seems had broken his dreams By stealing the girl of his fancy. Her name was Magil and she called herself Lil But everyone knew her as Nancy. Now she and her man who called himself Dan Were in the next room at the hoe down Rocky burst in and grinning a grin He said Danny boy this is a showdown But Daniel was hot-he drew first and shot And Rocky collapsed in the corner.
Now the doctor came in stinking of gin And proceeded to lie on the table He said Rocky you met your match And Rocky said, Doc it's only a scratch And I'll be better...I'll be better doc as soon as I am able.
Now Rocky Raccoon he fell back in his room Only to find Gideon's bible Gideon checked out and he left it no doubt To help with good Rocky's revival.
Who was Rocky's girl? Everyone knew her as....Nancy Sinatra
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 21, 2005 23:10:06 GMT -5
Rocky's Girl, Nancy Sinatra. Hmmmm Now are we referring to Tommy Sands and Nancy? Or "Fly" and Nancy? Was Frank Sinatra part of the replacement "system"? And why not have one of the replacements involved with his daughter? Maybe even Billy witnessed those boots made for walkin'.
These Boots Were Made For Walking
You keep saying you've got something for me. Something you call love, but confess You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin' and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walkin' and that's just what they'll do one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying when you oughta be truthin' and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet You keep samin' when you oughta be changin' Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin' and you keep thinkin' that you'll never get burned Ha! I've just found me a brand new box of matches yeah and what he knows you ain't had time to learn.
These boots are made for walkin' and that's just what they'll do one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'
One line particularly jumps out at me "What he knows you ain't had time to learn"...sounds like Bill, ain't had time to learn what Paul knew.....still hasn't learned it!
Another line jumps out "you've been messin' where you shouldn't be a messin'"
Yet another line "You've been lyin' when you oughta be truthin' "
It's funny how these lyrics fit into hidden clues.....
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Post by lovelyrita on Sept 21, 2005 23:13:11 GMT -5
Was Fly and Faul rivals over Nancy Sinatra?
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