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Post by Athenais on Mar 18, 2006 23:06:31 GMT -5
Celebrities and others who have been replaced by impersonators, temporarily or permanently:
Beryl Adams
Joan Baez
Claudio Baglioni
Eric Clapton
David Crosby
Tom Cruise
Dalida
Doris Day
Cameron Diaz
Faye Dunaway
Bob Dylan
Albert Einstein
Brian Epstein 1965
Marianne Faithfull
Mia Farrow 1966
Johnny Hallyday
George Harrison
Paul "Bono" Hewson
L. Ron Hubbard
Brian Jones
Jewel Kilcher
B.B. King
John Lennon 1966
Loretta Lynn
Linda McCartney
Paul McCartney 1966
George Michael
Elvis Presley
Marisa Sannia 1965
Frank Sinatra (unconfirmed)
Phil Spector
Sylvester Stallone
Ringo Starr 1965
John Travolta
Sylvie Vartan 1965
Renato Zero
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 19, 2006 8:50:07 GMT -5
I find the most recent edition of Roger McGuinn to be highly suspect. (Speaking of David Crosby). McGuinn's last commercially produced album was called "Back from Mars", so that might explain a lot. Do you have before and after pictures of Marissa Sannia? Is she still supposed to be alive? I can find almost nothing about her on the internet. I'd appreciate a link to her biography (real or not! )
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Post by Athenais on Mar 19, 2006 12:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 20, 2006 8:29:47 GMT -5
I stand corrected; there are two "L"s in Faithfull.
I guess I'm just disgusted with how McGuinn has turned out. He went from being someone outspoken and sarcastic to being Donnie Osmond. A friend of mine went to see John Sebastian about 12 years ago. His voice was shot, and he couldn't hit the high notes. With McGuinn the opposite is true: he can't sing the low notes anymore, so he yelps his way through his songs like a yappy little dog. Adding insult to injury, he shills for bad rock and roll shows on PBS, and played guitar at the Democratic convention. (So much for the tongue-in-cheek "I Wanna Grow Up to Be a Politician.") I really would like to discover that he was replaced, because it would be easier to take. Let me put it this way: At least with Paul, it's a question whether he became a woman. I'm sympathetic to the ravages of age, etc., but you don't see Neil Young or David Gilmour selling out. Sorry if I misled you.
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Post by multitrack on Apr 30, 2006 21:07:12 GMT -5
I stand corrected; there are two "L"s in Faithfull. I guess I'm just disgusted with how McGuinn has turned out. He went from being someone outspoken and sarcastic to being Donnie Osmond. A friend of mine went to see John Sebastian about 12 years ago. His voice was shot, and he couldn't hit the high notes. With McGuinn the opposite is true: he can't sing the low notes anymore, so he yelps his way through his songs like a yappy little dog. Adding insult to injury, he shills for bad rock and roll shows on PBS, and played guitar at the Democratic convention. (So much for the tongue-in-cheek "I Wanna Grow Up to Be a Politician.") I really would like to discover that he was replaced, because it would be easier to take. Let me put it this way: At least with Paul, it's a question whether he became a woman. I'm sympathetic to the ravages of age, etc., but you don't see Neil Young or David Gilmour selling out. Sorry if I misled you. If you think those guys sound bad singing, have you heard Bob Dylan lately? I saw a video of him singing Neil Young's song, Old Man...it was incredibly horrid. I could have handled the old fingernails across the chalkboard a lot better. Or if you've ever been a Jethro Tull fan...have you heard Ian Anderson's vocals in the past, say, 10 years? Poor guy can't belt it out anymore...he's constantly searching for his pitch and so he's like a slide guitar... I believe what we are seeing and hearing are all of our icons from the 60's and 70's getting old and tired is all. The only thing they are really selling out to is age...and, as with so many of us, as we grow older some of our personal viewpoints make a shift. I mean, c'mon...what's so bad about playing at the democratic convention? Most artists swing toward the democratic side anyways and loads of them have been very outspoken against the current administration. In their minds it's a way to make a rallying cry...use their notoriety as popular artists to sort of encourage people to follow their lead and vote democrat. John Fogerty performed at Bill Clinton's second inauguration...he had the guts to play "Fortunate Son" which is VERY anti-political in nature. Another artist, who is featured in the movie Woodstock (from 1968), was the guitar player for Country Joe and the Fish, is right in front of the camera toking on a joint while everyone chants MARIJUANA! He was in the news a few years ago as a political candidate in California. I don't recall what level of office he was vieing for but I was really cracking up because the news media showed that clip from Woodstock in a split screan shot of him making a political speech all those years later. LOL! Hey, the flower children generation have reached the point of having to shoulder the burden of leading the country...SOMEONE must do it. I don't see that as selling out...it's more like having to face reality. Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin', into the future for ALL of us, dammit! It sux gettin' old. McGuinn is cool. I'll bet he can still make that Rickenbacher 12-string chime like a bell. Ian Anderson is still tearing up the notes on the flute better than ever in spite of his singing having gone south. I am really curious why this list of replaced celebs is so long and why it is believed they were replaced by impersonators. Is this just supposed to be some kind of sarcastic statement or do you really believe it? One of the names on that list is my niece whom I have had an active relationship with since the time she was 10 years old. She had a rough go getting her musical career started, but very few people in the music business don't. But other than having to scrape by on peanutbutter and carrot sticks for a while before anyone heard any of her music, nothing really bad (at least nothing life-threatening) has ever happened to her. She's not as popular now as she was a few years back but she still has a very large audience at her shows...and I have never missed her perform when she's played anywhere near my home. I cannot vouch for anyone else on this list so I will just leave it with the thought that I think this surely must be a joke. Right?
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Post by Athenais on May 1, 2006 18:15:36 GMT -5
One of the names on that list is my niece whom I have had an active relationship with since the time she was 10 years old. She had a rough go getting her musical career started, but very few people in the music business don't. But other than having to scrape by on peanutbutter and carrot sticks for a while before anyone heard any of her music, nothing really bad (at least nothing life-threatening) has ever happened to her. She's not as popular now as she was a few years back but she still has a very large audience at her shows...and I have never missed her perform when she's played anywhere near my home. That's interesting, which one? Let's see, you said a niece so it has to be a female. And you said she has a musical career so that would narrow it down to Marianne Faithfull, Jewel Kilcher, and Loretta Lynn. Ok going by the birthday you gave on your profile, you are too young to have known Loretta or Marianne at the age of 10. So you must be Jewel's uncle! WOW! I thought the story was that she lived in a van, I don't remember that bit about carrot sticks and peanut butter, thanks for filling us in! Please give more info! *I am being sarcastic*
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Post by Athenais on May 1, 2006 19:07:54 GMT -5
I cannot vouch for anyone else on this list so I will just leave it with the thought that I think this surely must be a joke. Right? Now to be serious...I wish all this were a joke but it's not. To the best of my knowledge each person on the list has been replaced (or has used a double for public appearances) at some point. If someone does not belong on it I would be truly sorry to have caused any offense. It's just as likely that there are others who need to be listed...and this is just about celebrities, we haven't even gotten into politcal officials. These days there is not a lot of difference between celebrities and politicians anyway. As you said yourself: That's a large part of why replacements happen, to use a celebrity's notoriety to influence the public and distort perceptions. Bob Dylan is another one I forgot to add here, thanks for reminding me.
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Post by multitrack on May 2, 2006 18:58:29 GMT -5
That's interesting, which one? Let's see, you said a niece so it has to be a female. And you said she has a musical career so that would narrow it down to Marianne Faithfull, Jewel Kilcher, and Loretta Lynn. Ok going by the birthday you gave on your profile, you are too young to have known Loretta or Marianne at the age of 10. So you must be Jewel's uncle! WOW! I thought the story was that she lived in a van, I don't remember that bit about carrot sticks and peanut butter, thanks for filling us in! Please give more info! *I am being sarcastic* I probably shouldn't have said as much as I did, but yea, you guessed it. I'm usually pretty tight-lipped when it comes to talking about her being my neice, especially on the internet. I was just really taken back by seeing her name on your replaced list and couldn't keep from saying something. Yes, she lived in her van for a while...it was then that she was living on carrot sticks and peanut butter, with a few cellery sticks on the side just for a little variety. I didn't know about that until after the fact or else I would have helped her have some real food to eat. She's a tough little gal to have made it through such tough times. I'm curious to know at which point in her life it is that you think she was replaced and for what reason.
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Post by Athenais on May 22, 2006 14:29:32 GMT -5
That's interesting, which one? Let's see, you said a niece so it has to be a female. And you said she has a musical career so that would narrow it down to Marianne Faithfull, Jewel Kilcher, and Loretta Lynn. Ok going by the birthday you gave on your profile, you are too young to have known Loretta or Marianne at the age of 10. So you must be Jewel's uncle! WOW! I thought the story was that she lived in a van, I don't remember that bit about carrot sticks and peanut butter, thanks for filling us in! Please give more info! *I am being sarcastic* I probably shouldn't have said as much as I did, but yea, you guessed it. I'm usually pretty tight-lipped when it comes to talking about her being my neice, especially on the internet. I was just really taken back by seeing her name on your replaced list and couldn't keep from saying something. Yes, she lived in her van for a while...it was then that she was living on carrot sticks and peanut butter, with a few cellery sticks on the side just for a little variety. I didn't know about that until after the fact or else I would have helped her have some real food to eat. She's a tough little gal to have made it through such tough times. I'm curious to know at which point in her life it is that you think she was replaced and for what reason. Priceless...commentary from a David Crosby lookalike ;D
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 29, 2006 14:15:16 GMT -5
Can you look into Sheryl Crow? No, she's not a mirror. Oh, you know what I meant. I think she might have been replaced. These remarks are somewhat curious: sherylcrow.com/main/"Whenever Crow begins a new album, she says, she uses a handful of albums as a "template" to help define the project. Her choices this time around are telling. She looked to Neil Young[/color]'s Harvest for its sense of intimacy, and to Elton John's Tumbleweed Connection, for its "down-homeness." The other classic she referenced was All Things Must Pass by George Harrison—to whom Crow also paid tribute on her "Light In Your Eyes" single. "His passing affected me deeply, and really seemed to inform my art," she says. "I only met him once, but in the last three years, I've really intensely embraced meditating. I have a real admiration for the way he lived his life, and also for the way he kind of orchestrated his passing. He was so conscious of how fleeting life is, and he lived his life that way." Echoes of Harrison's signature slide guitar and beloved Indian instrumentation can be heard on Wildflower tracks like "Chances Are" and the first single, "Good is Good."" (end)
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Post by Athenais on Jun 29, 2006 16:57:20 GMT -5
Can you look into Sheryl Crow? No, she's not a mirror. Oh, you know what I meant. Like Superman, with X-ray vision? No, I just think she might have been replaced. sherylcrow.com/main/Interesting! I've always disliked her for some reason, couldn't put my finger on why though. Wasn't there something strange, like one of her band members committed suicide? I'll look into it...
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 30, 2006 11:50:27 GMT -5
There was one, and also the musicians on "Tuesday Night Music Club" took umbrage that she didn't credit them for her success during an interview on the "Tonight Show". I'm bothered by the radical difference in her appearence from how she looked on "The Tuesday Night Music Club" and how she looks on "C'mon C'mon". Her skin and hair colors are as different as Paul and Bill's, imo. The voice sounds nearly the same.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jul 13, 2006 14:43:19 GMT -5
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