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Post by nicolas on May 25, 2005 19:33:14 GMT -5
Paul Raymond alias Geoffrey A. Shepherd
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Post by Athenais on May 30, 2005 1:51:46 GMT -5
There really is quite a resemblance between Paul Raymond and Vivian Stanshall.
It might have been a good solution for a young man who was just recently...
out of college, money spent
...to trade places with an older man who was loaded with women and money.
And for the older man to become "young" again...that magic feeling... One sweet dream came true that day?
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Post by lovelyrita on May 31, 2005 18:05:23 GMT -5
Okay, this old fart of a porno king/burlesque show tycoon Paul Raymond was born Geoffrey Anthony Quinn, played Vivian Stamshell in MMT with his stripper strutting around him? He's a wrinkled old fart now, but we're talking 38 years ago being dressed up as Viv, is that what you are saying? He seems to have the same facial structure as the Viv on that film, even though the photo displayed is not close up and full faced. Or do you mean this guy "replaced" Viv? If that were the case, was Paul Raymond playing Viv and himself until Viv "died" in 1995, he's now just himself? Then the real Vivian Stamshell was free to become Faul, leaving the image of "Vivian" with this Paul Raymond/Geoffrey dude. I am he as you are he as you are me and we are altogether. So here's the track: One deceased JPM Two Faul's Billy( Back of the Bus) Shepherd, and Vivian Stamshell. Two Vivians' the real Viv and Paul Raymond/Geoffrey Anthony Quinn One deceased Sylvie At least two Fylvie's Marissa and a sex-change Fylvie One Yoko One Ringo One George One John One Brian One Frian Am I there yet? With so many replacements, I just want to keep record on this.
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 15, 2005 9:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by Athenais on Jun 15, 2005 17:26:09 GMT -5
I met her in a club down in old Soho... Lola=Polythene Pam ? from Paul Raymonds club in Soho..? Yes! Why didn't I think of that? So the Paul Raymond Revue bar was like a "factory" for impersonators.
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Post by nicolas on Jun 17, 2005 16:00:10 GMT -5
Well.... There was no Vivian Stanshall separated from Paul Raymond. There was no Faul separated from Paul Raymond. You can change denture or wig or eyes color or ears and nose with a professional make-up but... you CAN'T change your forehead features.... Vivian Stanshall was just a further character for Geoffrey A. William Shepherd users.northnet.com.au/~kendalli/WC03/WC03_337.HTM
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 17, 2005 21:47:22 GMT -5
That's funny, because now that you point it out, Paul Raymonds nose tip looks a little bit funny, like Clouseau in the castle with Dreyfus... I found this quote floating around... "McCartney's piano playing is Vegas-lounge schmaltz." Graham Reid; The Beatles: Let It Be ... Naked; New Zealand Herald (Auckland, New Zealand); Dec 13, 2003.
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Post by nicolas on Jun 18, 2005 3:38:34 GMT -5
That's funny, because now that you point it out, Paul Raymonds nose tip looks a little bit funny, like Clouseau in the castle with Dreyfus... If you zoom on the picture you can see that Raymond's nose tip is bad attached.... and his ear is just too funny to be real... Paul Ramone <---> Paul Raymond Does it in English sound the same?
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 18, 2005 15:47:21 GMT -5
Pretty close to me....
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Post by nicolas on Jun 19, 2005 8:02:03 GMT -5
... just as a further confirmation ...
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Post by lovelyrita on Jun 20, 2005 8:58:38 GMT -5
I wished someone would put together a book called "Characters Connected To The Beatles". Because I am constantly reminded of the characters that are involved in the story of the Beatles. Faul could be called "A Man Of A Thousand Faces", if he can pull off being the identity of Vivian Stamshell/Billy Sheppard/Paul Mc Cartney/Paul Raymond. Esp three at a time Faul/Vivian/Paul Raymond...His life is circus. Maybe that is part of the circus theme of Benefit For Mr. Kite. Faul's life must seem like the swirly music being played like a merry-go-round. Nicolas, you never cease to amaze me at your posts and comparisons! These connections seem so bizarre and so off the wall from what one would consider reasonable or believable, but anything connected to the Beatles is NEVER "normal" or reasonable. And reminding folks that Billy the the Pepperpots was a cabaret "Vegas" style group. The costumes and characters onstage resemble each other in being off the wall, and impersonating other people.
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Post by nicolas on Jun 29, 2005 12:22:39 GMT -5
Even "under" totally different make-ups his face expression is ALWAYS the same... it's about his soul.. that NO make-up can change...
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Post by reallyreallydead on Jul 10, 2005 20:05:09 GMT -5
If you zoom on the picture you can see that Raymond's nose tip is bad attached.... and his ear is just too funny to be real... you're right! Good job, nicolas! from Nicholas ;D ;D ;D
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Post by nicolas on Jul 11, 2005 9:45:42 GMT -5
If you zoom on the picture you can see that Raymond's nose tip is bad attached.... and his ear is just too funny to be real... you're right! Good job, nicolas! from Nicholas ;D ;D ;D ... and thanks to FP too ... ;D I think that "being Paul" for Billy was really temporary ... until the Beatles were on.... So it was MAINLY about a make-up (and a slight surgery to make his face with less fat) ALL along his Beatle time. After the Beatles he decided for a "deep" plastic surgery... "How Do You Sleep" ---> A pretty face may last a year or two
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Post by lovelyrita on Jul 11, 2005 12:31:36 GMT -5
It seems that "Sir Bill" is the man of many faces. This reminded me of something that I will share. Looking at photos of Faul/Bill and his attempt at being Paul Mc Cartney, and seeing these other alter egos such as Vivian and Geoffrey, one can give Bill credit for the many disguises he has used. It causes me to wonder if Bill is a multiple personality? To be living these different lives, to the fullest extent of having different disguises to go with each alter? Could Bill be an elaborate "experiment" used by the "system" to see how far their psychological mind games could go? Could the system have used Bill, a willing replacement candidate, for these different personalities and plastic surgery procedures?
It may seem really off the wall, to think a person could be used for such an experiment, but the connections to these bizarre characters seem to make some sense in this web surrounding Faul and the people involved in this entire scheme of things.
The ideas that I share on these threads are to cause one to examine the things in ways than there is more than meets the eye. Some people just look at things at face value and leave it at that, and others look into things and analyze them. Just throwing this out there.
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Post by nicolas on Jul 12, 2005 18:57:39 GMT -5
It seems that "Sir Bill" is the man of many faces. This reminded me of something that I will share. Looking at photos of Faul/Bill and his attempt at being Paul Mc Cartney, and seeing these other alter egos such as Vivian and Geoffrey, one can give Bill credit for the many disguises he has used. It causes me to wonder if Bill is a multiple personality? To be living these different lives, to the fullest extent of having different disguises to go with each alter? Could Bill be an elaborate "experiment" used by the "system" to see how far their psychological mind games could go? Could the system have used Bill, a willing replacement candidate, for these different personalities and plastic surgery procedures? It may seem really off the wall, to think a person could be used for such an experiment, but the connections to these bizarre characters seem to make some sense in this web surrounding Faul and the people involved in this entire scheme of things. The ideas that I share on these threads are to cause one to examine the things in ways than there is more than meets the eye. Some people just look at things at face value and leave it at that, and others look into things and analyze them. Just throwing this out there. Good post Lovely!
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Post by reallyreallydead on Jul 14, 2005 9:22:40 GMT -5
Huh?
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Post by reallyreallydead on Jul 14, 2005 9:24:48 GMT -5
It causes me to wonder if Bill is a multiple personality? Good point!
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Post by lovelyrita on Jul 21, 2005 21:42:59 GMT -5
I wonder if there are any other "alters" from MMT that we've overlooked that could also be Billy Pepper of Pepperpots/Sgt. Pepper/Man at the back of the Bus/Faul/Vivian/Paul Raymond/Paul Ramon/Geoffrey A. Shepherd? There should be a thread of photos of the many faces of Faul...but for now, the mental image will have to suffice here. Something tells me that there are some other skeletons in Faul's closet we've yet to discover. Maybe the significance of the Red nosed wizard...could this mean that Faul/Billy/Vivian/Paul Raymond/Geoffrey is also a practicing witch? There was an article I read about the half time at the Super Bowl as told by a former witch that the actions Faul displayed was actually casting a spell on the audience, hand gestures and all. So, is the infamous Faul also a practicing witch/wizzard? Hmmmm.
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Post by Athenais on Aug 20, 2006 1:13:35 GMT -5
How many personas has Billy impersonated?
So far I have counted these:
Billy Pepper Phil Ackrill Neil Aspinall Brian Epstein Vivian Stanshall Paul McCartney Paul Raymond Geoffrey Giuliano
If Billy Pepper picked a peck of pickled peppers, how many pickled peppers did Billy Pepper pick?
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Aug 20, 2006 8:59:16 GMT -5
Refresh my memory, please, who Phil Ackrill is.
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Post by Athenais on Aug 20, 2006 10:24:02 GMT -5
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