Helter Skelter run for shelter

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{John Whisler}

' Evil people know one another '-- Arab proverb



Charlie Manson is an enigma to most people; a singer/song writer, murderer, anarchist revolutionary, philosopher, occultist, Scientologist, etc. There have been quite a few books written about him, giving useful clues and attempting to put those clues together in such a way that Manson will make sense to them. However, a few writer/researchers have made it clear that you cannot understand him until you know that he was an MK Ultra mind control victim of the Illuminati, with Helter-Skelter programming.

This goes for several of those who were members of his communal family. In addition to being a member of the Scientology brainwash cult, Charles was also a member of the super-satanic Process Church of the Final Judgment.

Robert "DeGrimston" Moore, cofounder of the Process Church of the Final Judgment--An intense satanic cult who believed it was their job to bring on Armageddon.

Is there an easier way to initiate a revolution than to program people to do it for you? I don't think so. Neither does the Illuminati, hence they created the Process Church through their agents Robert Moore and Mary Anne Maclean (accomplished Scientologists). Researcher Jim Keith says of the Process " Manson's reported plan to unleash the apocalyptic 'Helter Skelter' revolution also seems to have been copped straight from Process theology, but there is a familiar ring. The 'process' of The Process is identical to that of Tavistock, the return of the blank slate, the tabula rasa, through violence." 25

The Tavistock Institute is a well-known MK Ultra type programming center in Great Britain. According to Dr. John Coleman, the British rock band the Beatles was put together and then brought to America by the Tavistock Institute as a step in creating a cultural revolution in the United States. The Tavistock was also responsible for inserting 'trigger words' into their 'cult lyrics' through a man named Theo Adorno. 26

The American equivalent to the Tavistock Institute is the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California. Esalen is a new agey cult center where Manson was seen just a few days before the Tate-La Bianca murders took place. Robert DeGrimston was also reported to have spoken there and Manson murder victim Abigail Folger had also been seen there. It's possible that Manson and other members of 'the family' had undergone programming there. The one thing that a lot of people have figured out over the years is that part of Manson's programming did involve Beatles' music.

John Todd knew Manson and, being an insider, was aware of the plan the Illuminati had for utilizing Manson
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Charlie wasn't the only member of the Process who was famous for mass murder. Investigative reporter Maury Terry, who worked on the Son of Sam case for years, dropped the six-hundred and forty page bombshell titled The Ultimate Evil. Showing that Berkowitz didn't act alone, Terry drew a coherent picture of the inner workings of the Process Church and how they were actually involved in the Son of Sam ritual killings. Albeit it, even if it was only a small glimpse of how vast and well-connected across the U.S. this one part of the Satanic underground is. His appraisal of the Process " The Process firmly believed its divine duty was to hasten the arrival of the final days -- and bastardizing the Bible told them how to do it. This was a blueprint for murder, butchery and other crime cloaked in religious justification. " 27

Located on one website, I found a statement by an old Process groupie that helped confirm what John Todd was saying about the Process recruiting for their Armageddon Army in the prisons. Through email correspondence, this person assured me, however, that the Process only wanted to help lonely people in prison and was not trying to recruit them into the cult. Vincent Bugliosi, prosecuting attorney for the Manson murders, and author of the bestseller Helter Skelter, was well aware of Manson's connection with the Process (although the Process denied that he was ever a member) and wrote a comparison of the two.

" Both preached an imminent, violent Armageddon, in which all but the chosen few would be destroyed. Both found the basis for this in the Book of Revelation. Both conceived that the motorcycle gangs, such as Hell's Angels, would be the troops of the last days. And both actively sought to solicit them to their side. " 28

Under mind-control programming, the Beatles White Album was scripted in as end time prophecy themes to Manson (and an untold number of other multiples); the song Revolution # 9 became Revelation # 9 and Charlie became the angel of the bottomless pit--the mercy killer. Some members were just psychotic people attracted to the theology of the Process, others were mind control victims born and raised with this particular endtime programming. Terry's findings agreed with Bugliosi that the cult was also recruiting members of the biker gangs.

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When he was asked at a 1987 parole hearing what he would do with his freedom, he said he would spark a revolution if released. 39 Shame, shame Charlie! You need to go find your time-out spot until you can play nice with the other kids. Due to his programming, Charlie will always believe that he is a divinely appointed Angel of Death.

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Helter Skelter is coming, regardless of whether or not Charlie is involved. It is a long anticipated Satanic blood ritual... to be carried out on a colossal scale. The bloodthirsty, power hungry Faust-ocrats are only too eager to accomodate their master in exchange for just another taste of that addictive power...

25. Jim Keith, Mind Control, World Control, ( Kempton, Illinois: Adventures Unlimited Press, 1997) p. 174
26. Dr. John Coleman, Conspirator's Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300, ( Carson City, NV: America West Publishers, 1992), pp.88-90
27. Maury Terry, The Ultimate Evil, ( New York, NY: Doubleday, 1987) p.212
28. Vincent Bugliosi, with Curt Gentry, Helter Skelter ( New York, NY: W.W.Norton & Co., 1974 ) p.637
29. Terry, p.54
30. Ibid., p. 470
31. Ibid., p. 170
32. Ibid., p. 209
33. Ibid., pp.306,319
34. Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave (Oregon City, OR: self published, 1996) pp.314
35. Ibid. p.313
36. Texe Marrs, Dark Majesty: The Secret Brotherhood and the Magic of A Thousand Points of Light ( Austin, Texas: Living Truth Publishers, 1992 ) p.17 37. Bugliosi, pp.665
38. Ibid. p.671-2
39. CBS News, Los Angeles, April 25, 2002, Charles Manson Denied 10th Parole Bid
online at www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/25/national/main507237.shtml

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[Athenais]

Is there an easier way to initiate a revolution than to program people to do it for you?

*chills*

Is it known how old Manson was when his programming began?

[totalinfo]

Manson grew up in an orphange run by the U.S. Department of Justice...

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Helter-skelter in the summer swelter,
the birds flew off with a fallout shelter
Eight miles high and fallin' fast,
It landed foul on the grass,
the players tried for a forward pass,
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast.

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
while the sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
but we never got the chance

Cause the players tried to take the field,
the marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
the day the music died?

Sergeants in marching band? Sound familiar anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Do you recall what was revealed?
What was revealed in America as we came off that summer swelter of helter skelter?





{PAUL IS DEAD}

[Revisionism]

Athenais said:

Is there an easier way to initiate a revolution than to program people to do it for you?

*chills*

Is it known how old Manson was when his programming began?

Yes. By beginning the "programming" with the parents of the children you wish to "program", and then the "programmers" can remain ahead of the game. Always. That is a very frightening thought.

[Perplexed]

A rather disturbing thesis. This is an intense thread/topic.
Is forcing me to think a bit.....

[Sandy Blue]

You need to stop your lies about Charlie. Charlie is about love and peace.

He never was part of any government (God forbid!) program or part of any Illuminating group. He is still spreading his love today to thousands who send him mail. I KNOW, because I help answer some of the letters.

Don't mess with Charlie!

[totalinfo]

If you really know Manson, please state what exactly you think here is incorrect and why. I bet many people reading would be interested to see your comments. Heck, print out the thread and bring it to Charlie.

FWIW, I don't think Manson ordered the Tate-LaBianca murders. He and his cult were framed by the Tavistock types. The actual hitmen were probably Mossad. Salvador Austica, who has done good work on the Lennon assassination has also published some interesting research on the Manson phenomenon.

[Sandra Blue]

It's possible that Manson and other members of 'the family' had undergone programming there.

This is completely FALSE! WE DID NOT!

Shame, shame Charlie! You need to go find your time-out spot until you can play nice with the other kids. Due to his programming, Charlie will always believe that he is a divinely appointed Angel of Death.

These are examples of the LIES you are promoting. I will send to Charlie and I can tell you he will NOT be happy; and I can tell you that is not GOOD (haha)!

When I met Manson, I saw a man who was sure of himself, who was all the way alive, who didn't have doubt, who didn't need to ask a woman or a boss or somebody what to do. He was lively. He sang. He danced. He never lied. He was very truthful. And that attracted me as it attracted a lot of people. He didn't direct things. He more or less reflected us back at ourselves. He saw more in us than we
saw in ourselves. He saw that we were locked by our parents' doubts and our PARENTS' PROGRAMMING.

You talked about the murders. Of course Charlie directed those. Why? Well, there's a lot of different levels to answering that question. I can touch on a few. I remember in the penalty phase of the trial, one of the women that was convicted of murder said, "We are your children. We are reflections of your society. We have done what you raised us up to do. We've watched your violence on T.V. You've judged a reflection of yourselves." The murders were pretty much a good reflection of what this country teaches its young people to do. Now, you have mass murderers everyday. There were actual motives, which is complicated to get into. One was to show where the country was headed. The Tate and LaBianca houses were sort of a portent of where the country was going if we don't stop pollution and if we don't start showing our children models of real morality. In other words, if you've got a government that lies and cheats the public out of their money and squanders the resources that we need to live, like our air and water and wildlife and trees, and they wheel and deal and play crook and they murder people in other countries to get their resources so we can have more oil, and misuse the resources. When the children grow up seeing that there is no truth and no trust and no faith and no honor in the people that are running this country, what do you expect? So, we wanted to stop the war.

You've got the whole story wrong.

[totalinfo]

This is completely FALSE! WE DID NOT!

I submit that even if you are telling the truth as you know it, you simply cannot know what kind of programming Manson had been subject to unless you were with him 24/7.

These are examples of the LIES you are promoting.

Those words were someone else's, of course. I don't necessarily think Manson saw himself as a divine angel of death. But I can easily see how the writer gets that impression from Charlie Manson's approved line, which is what you go ahead to purport.

I will send to Charlie and I can tell you he will NOT be happy; and I can tell you that is not GOOD (haha)!

Ooh, is that supposed to be a threat? Whatever. Fear is the mindkiller; I make fear my bitch, and fear will not stop me nor anyone else seeking justice for John and Paul.

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Helter-skelter in the summer swelter,
the birds flew off with a fallout shelter
Eight miles high and fallin' fast,

As long as this thread is up, I thought I would pull apart these lyrics a bit more.

"Eight miles high" was a tune by the Byrds. Terry Melcher produced a bunch of the Byrds records.

Manson was running around with Terry Melcher's charge card

It was at Melcher's house that the Beatles in 65 dropped acid with the Byrds, learned about the Doris Day doppleganger and began to put together their plan to "gently blow your mind."

The Melcher house is also where the Tate "Helter Skelter" murders occured almost four years later.

[unrepentant]

does anyone really buy faul's claim that THE WHO were going to come out with the "raunchiest rock song ever" or something like that, so HELTER SKELTER was written in response??

i have a hunch paul wrote it in '66, and that in its intended form it would be a much softer and more elegant piece....maybe even happy-go-lucky, as "helter skelters" were british amusement park slides.

[lovelyrita]

I remember the comedian Steven Wright had a joke in one of his monologues, in his neighborhood, Helter Skelter was played on the ice cream wagon.

Hmmmm, could there be a "happy go lucky" rendition? It could be understandable that there was some ditty they played with in the studio just to be silly, and later, after the death of Paul, they made a more sinister song with the same title just to add further insight to the horror and shock they were dealing with at the time.....

[lovelyrita]

I thought American Pie was a result of mourning the death of Buddy Holly.

But doesn't Faul own Buddy Holly's song catalog?
Why Buddy Holly's songs?
Buddy Holly died prematurely, in a plane wreck.
Tragic death of talented musicians/songwriters...
Does Faul think he's a talented musician/songwriter?