Found Guilty and Condemned

[Found Guilty and Condemned]

Found Guilty and Condemned When I'm Twenty-Four: Out When I'm Sixty-Four.
Escape needed.

[Perplexed]

Guest-Found said:

Found Guilty and Condemned When I'm Twenty-Four: Out When I'm Sixty-Four.
Escape needed.

Really? I rather favor amnesty. 40 years is a long sentence.
Start a new paragraph.

Write a new chapter. The answer can be found in the dedication; the explanations are in the forward.

I think we've all had a chance to skim over the table of contents.

I'll be right back. I need a minute to search through the index.

[ForNoone]

That is just plain STRANGE

[Found Guilty and Condemned]

Moped accident.
A Star accidentally killed.
They didn't forgive me that.

[Athenais]

Guest-Found said:

Found Guilty and Condemned When I'm Twenty-Four: Out When I'm Sixty-Four.
Escape needed.

There is no escape from death.

The Beatles have already told us in so many ways, "Paul is dead".
I think they meant exactly what they said.
Stop playing games here.

[Perplexed]

ForNoone said:

That is just plain STRANGE

Yes it was 'cause I am.

But, in my usual fragmented punnage, I was essentially saying if you've served a 40 year sentence, then your legal "debt" is reckoned as paid upon completion, and at that moment, begin a new life in a positive way, dedicated to being a good man, or woman, as the case may be, eaxmine your life, and yourself, and stand before God as an open book, accepting His grace, love, and even chastisement, if so.

Strangely said, I confess, but not strangely meant.

Lest I be (deservingly) misunderstood.........

I could learn to eschew obfuscation. And, maybe even master a new level of simplicity, and clarity.

[Found Guilty and Condemned]

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[jojo]

Got that, and yes, lots of interesting stuff. The one song that
makes you wonder is one that I posted, I imagine most have heard
this in their travels on the boards, but it bears another mention:

www.jojoplace.com/Shoebox/EveryoneHadahardYear.mp3

"Everyone had a face lift"..

[Found Guilty and Condemned]

Kidnapped to be judged.
Released under payment.
Found damaged on a hill.
Killed on our way home.

[ForNoone]

Kidnapped to be judged.
Released under payment.
Found damaged on a hill.
Killed on our way home.

Kidnapped to be silenced.
Never released, but escaped.
Ran for my life.
Shot down in COLD BLOOD

[Not Guilty Condemned Anyway]

Trusted the wrong person.
Was under her thumb for YEARS.
Finally broke free.
Was shot in the back, at least one bullet fired by HER!

Is there really any justice in this world ?

I think NOT !

I'm dead & she solely represents my interests.

My oldest son was denied his birthright.

Again, there is NO justice in this world

[Ono sideboard]

Guest-Not said:

Trusted the wrong person.
Was under her thumb for YEARS.
Finally broke free.
Was shot in the back, at least one bullet fired by HER!

Is there really any justice in this world ?

I think NOT !

I'm dead & she solely represents my interests.

My oldest son was denied his birthright.

Again, there is NO justice in this world

He bag production
He got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard
He one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knees
Hold you in his armchair
You can feel his disease
Come together, right now
Over me

[ForNoone]

Can someone explain to me what Ono Sideboard is trying to say

[jojo]

I was listening to a early version of Come Together, and he says Ono sideburn. Could be a typical John playing around with words in the final version.

Or perhaps he meant Oh NO sideburn, not burned on his side? (but elsewhere?) John will drive us all crazy to the end of time..

[Perplexed]

John has already driven many of us crazy.

I guess he had to repress so much while he was alive.
But, seeing as he is no longer under contract.......seein as the corporation known as JOHN WINSTON LENNON has, more or less, formally dissolved.............the party of the first part has officially departed.....

[TheDZ]

Guest-Found said:

Found Guilty and Condemned When I'm Twenty-Four: Out When I'm Sixty-Four.
Escape needed.

Guest-Found said:

Moped accident.
A Star accidentally killed.
They didn't forgive me that.

Guest-Found said:

Kidnapped to be judged.
Released under payment.
Found damaged on a hill.
Killed on our way home.

"Ambulance Blues"

Back in the old folky days
The air was magic when we played.
The riverboat was rockin'
in the rain
Midnight was the time
for the raid.

Oh, Isabela, proud Isabela,
They tore you down and
plowed you under.
You're only real
with your make-up on
How could I see you
and stay too long?

All along the Navajo Trail,
Burn-outs stub their toes
on garbage pails.
Waitresses are cryin'
in the rain
Will their boyfriends
pass this way again?

Oh, Mother Goose,
she's on the skids
Shoe ain't happy,
neither are the kids.
She needs someone
that she can scream at
And I'm such a heel
for makin' her feel so bad.

I guess I'll call it
sickness gone
It's hard to say
the meaning of this song.
An ambulance can only
go so fast
It's easy to get buried
in the past
When you try to make
a good thing last.

I saw today
in the entertainment section
There's room at the top
for private detection.
To Mom and Dad
this just doesn't matter,
But it's either that
or pay off the kidnapper.

So all you critics sit alone
You're no better than me
for what you've shown.
With your stomach pump and
your hook and ladder dreams
We could get together
for some scenes.

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes.
How can he remember
who he's talkin' to?
'Cause I know it ain't me,
and I hope it isn't you.

Well, I'm up in T.O.
keepin' jive alive,
And out on the corner
it's half past five.
But the subways are empty
And so are the cafes.

Except for the Farmer's Market
And I still can hear him say:
You're all just pissin'
in the wind
You don't know it but you are.

And there ain't nothin'
like a friend
Who can tell you
you're just pissin'
in the wind.

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes
How can he remember
who he's talking to?
Cause I know it ain't me,
and hope it isn't you.

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"There was an old woman who lived in a shoe..."
by Mother Goose

There was an old woman who lived in a shoe,
She had so many children, she didn't know what to do;
She gave them some broth without any bread,
She whipped them all soundly, and put them to bed.

"There was an old woman..."
by Mother Goose

There was an old woman
Lived under a hill;
And if she's not gone,
She lives there still.


"Three blind mice! See, how they run..."
by Mother Goose

Three blind mice! See, how they run!
They all ran after the farmer's wife,
Who cut off their tails with the carving knife!
Did you ever see such a thing in your life?
Three blind mice!


"Monday's child is fair of face..."
by Mother Goose

Monday's child is fair of face,
Tuesday's child is full of grace;
Wednesday's child is full of woe,
Thursday's child has far to go;
Friday's child is loving and giving,
Saturday's child works hard for its living;
But the child that is born on the Sabbath day
Is bonny and blithe, and good and gay.


"Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall..."
by Mother Goose

Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty-Dumpty had a great fall;
Threescore men and threescore more
Cannot place Humpty-Dumpty as he was before.

(An egg.)


Although the verses are as British as plum pudding, the name, Mother Goose, actually made its way into England from France. Perrault's collection of eight famous; folk tales in 1697 was called "Contes de ma mère l'Oye" or "Tales of Mother Goose," in short, tall tales or tales of make-believe. These stories were translated into English in 1729.
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[Athenais]

humpty dumpty sat on the wall
humpty dumpty had a great, great fall
all the king's horses and all the king's men
couldn't put humpty together again

humpty dumpty and betty louise
stole a sony and some camembert cheese
she said "humpty baby, take me
oooh, yeah, take me to the river
'cause i like the way it runs, yeah,
take me to the river
you know i like the way it runs, yeah"

he said, "ah, ohh, everything's going my way"
he said, "maybe it's my la-lucky day"
and he said, "anything you want i can give"
she said, "i wanna take your picture
mm, just for me"
he said, "anything"
she said, "up there, baby
get on the wall, babe"

humpty dumpty sat on the wall
and looked at her as he was falling and
all the king's horses and all the king's men
couldn't put humpty together again

hey, betty louise
hey, betty louise
she said, "i like custard in the summer, honey"
oh yeah, what it takes to be queen
hey, what it takes to be queen
what it takes to be...oh

[Perplexed]

Ms. Amos appears onstage tomorrow night, well Sunday night the fourth, in my home city.

Nearly sold out( I think there are about 50 left) and ticket prices are a little steep (as they should be).....but I have friends who work the venue.........it worked last time........hmmmm...worth asking I bet..........

Perhaps this young prophetess has light to shed on an issue or two.....well, nothing about this PID business I wouldn't imagine, I doubt she'd give it any remote credence, but on wide variety of subjects she's got a fascinating way with words............

[totalinfo]

Actually, Perplexed, I've read that Tori Amos has a song called "Abbey Road" that I think she's only done live and has not been officially recorded. But maybe it has? It's kind of interesting.

I think she may have been a neighbor or somesuch of faux-PAUL at some point.

I think this was covered at some point.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Running down Abbey Road
Don't stop the ocean
I need to feel a tidal wave
So close
So close to a family way
To a family way
Don't stop bringing her around
See how tough I can be
When you're making me smile sweetly
Don't keep bringing her around
I need to see
See the changing of the leaves
Of the guard
Of your guitar
As it's leaving
Running down Abbey Road
No shoes
It's colder than Bermuda
Colder than my days in the sugar cane
And Johnny man, be as quick as you can
I said Johnny man, we know you like Hayley Mills
Like those boys are singing still
Catch me if you can
Oh, catch me if you can
Be my sugar cane
My
Running down Abbey Road
I know I thought we'd almost be
In the family way
I guess not today
I guess not today

[Perplexed]

All roads lead to Abbey Road.

Why?

[Athenais]

TotalInfo said:

Actually, Perplexed, I've read that Tori Amos has a song called "Abbey Road" that I think she's only done live and has not been officially recorded. But maybe it has? It's kind of interesting.

In this thread... The Family Way

[Athenais]

For those who have not yet read the FORUM GUIDELINES...

I will not allow speculation here about the identities of other posters.

So please don't make posts along the lines of "is this person big insider xyz?" or worse "I know you are really so-and-so on another board". From what I've observed this only causes problems.

Think about it...if the person truly needs to be anonymous, for the sake of privacy and safety, you will run them off by calling them out.

On the other hand, if the person is just playing games with us, they will love the attention you are giving them by wondering if they could be an insider.

I'm sorry for deleting posts but I feel strongly about this. I want everyone to feel that they can post here without being attacked or exposed for WHO they are instead of heard for WHAT they have to say.

Sometimes we are quick to make assumptions about other people that we wouldn't enjoy if the tables were turned. I know I do that as much as anyone else, but I will try to keep that to a minimum on this board.

While I'm on the subject of privacy...Tori seems to guard hers more and more closely as the years go by so I've tried not to draw too much attention to her as "someone who knows"...though I'm sure she knows a lot more than she can say.

If you think John's lyrics are cryptic...try reading Tori's!

[Perplexed]

Absolutely agreed. It should be as if there were no celebrities or personalities on the internet, only the diverse voices of private posters.

[Athenais]

Thank you for understanding Perplexed.

[Athenais]

nicolas said:

Well now we know that Paul (Saul, Samuel, Sam) and Brian Epstein didn't die but went in a (French?) jail since the assassination of Sylvie Vartan.

40 years of jail.

In "When I Am Twenty-Four"
Out "When I am Sixty-Four".

So who portrayed with a long beard in SOME photos taken in fall 1968 was Paul indeed.

But it was Bill again on the roof top concert.

Right?

BTW What's the lyrics of George Harrison's "Not Guilty"?

I am curious now.

nicolas said:

A hand outside a jail window.

Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)

So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell,
blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

And did they get you trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange
a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?

How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl,
year after year,
running over the same old ground. What have we found?
The same old fears,
wish you were here.



We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl,
year after year...

Shine on you Crazy Diamond (part 1) (Pink Floyd)

Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the cross fire of childhood and stardom,
blown on the steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter, come on you stranger,
you legend, you martyr, and shine!

You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Well you wore out your welcome with random precision,
rode on the steel breeze.
Come on you raver, you seer of visions, come on you painter,
you piper, you prisoner, and shine!






I told you the fool on the hill
I told you man he living there still


You are right, Athenais, but all that makes me wondering...

I'm moving this here to join it with its original presentation, but I do NOT support these ideas.

[Athenais]

Ok to clarify...THIS is what I don't agree with:

Well now we know that Paul (Saul, Samuel, Sam) and Brian Epstein didn't die but went in a (French?) jail since the assassination of Sylvie Vartan.

But PAUL AND BRIAN ARE DEAD.

[nicolas]

Athenais said:

Ok to clarify...THIS is what I don't agree with:

Well now we know that Paul (Saul, Samuel, Sam) and Brian Epstein didn't die but went in a (French?) jail since the assassination of Sylvie Vartan.

But PAUL AND BRIAN ARE DEAD.

And MAINLY they were REPLACED.

That's the core of all the matter.

[Athenais]

nicolas said:

And MAINLY they were REPLACED.

That's the core of all the matter.

Mainly they were dead.



Have you forgotten that?
But you changed the document so many times...you don't know the truth anymore.

[TheDZ]

Seems to me that Ringo in a box could be loosely interpreted as Paul held in French jail until 2,000,000 pounds could be raised as Bail (ie:ransom) until he could be put on trial....

Perhaps then Nicholas was the lure to get Paul to go to France and be taken for trial and Judgement. ( for the death of prized Sylvie Vartan )

An Accident but Johnny can't let go of needing revenge....
Military connections, perhaps even deeper Occult connections ,start wheels turning...

Judged in absentia, condemned and released in Nice after another payment, Brian retrieves Paul and they flee France as fast as they can...

Until they try to get past the wall...
The money wasn't enough...
The guns fire , the plane falls Helter Skelter and then...
both dead, then replaced.

I understand the need to re-evaluate, perhaps all assumptions need repeated testing before we can be sure...
So many twists and turns...so much new information coming out. I believe they are dead and replaced, both facts of equal importance I'd say.

This story had to be told in pieces.It's a hard puzzle for sure.

[Athenais]

TheDeZombificator said:

Seems to me that Ringo in a box could be loosely interpreted as Paul held in French jail until 2,000,000 pounds could be raised as Bail (ie:ransom) until he could be put on trial....

Perhaps then Nicholas was the lure to get Paul to go to France and be taken for trial and Judgement. ( for the death of prized Sylvie Vartan )

An Accident but Johnny can't let go of needing revenge....
Military connections, perhaps even deeper Occult connections ,start wheels turning...

Judged in absentia, condemned and released in Nice after another payment, Brian retrieves Paul and they flee France as fast as they can...

Until they try to get past the wall...
The money wasn't enough...
The guns fire , the plane falls Helter Skelter and then...
both dead, then replaced.

I understand the need to re-evaluate, perhaps all assumptions need repeated testing before we can be sure...
So many twists and turns...so much new information coming out. I believe they are dead and replaced, both facts of equal importance I'd say.

This story had to be told in pieces.It's a hard puzzle for sure.

Now THAT makes more sense.
Thank you!