The Wall ruined us

[nicolas]

The Wall ruined us





Absolutely to see:
www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_atlantik.htm



Policemen, Eggmen in bathing caps and John filmed "I Am The Walrus" near the 32 concrete anti-blast walls that protected aircrafts in World War II.

from:

1966.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1106387892

[Athenais]

There is a military theme throughout MMT...why?

John looks up at a plane flying during "I am the Walrus".
Was that plane shot down?

[TheDZ]

Outside the Wall (Waters) 1:42

All alone, or in two's,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.

"Isn't this where...."

[nicolas]

I saw a film today oh boy
The English Army had just won the war
A crowd of people turned away
But I just had to look
Having read the book

[nicolas]

Athenais said:

There is a military theme throughout MMT...why?

John looks up at a plane flying during "I am the Walrus".
Was that plane shot down?

Those ones?

[Athenais]

nicolas said:

That one?

Yes! thank you!
And just as important (maybe more) is John's expression watching it.

[nicolas]

I was always wondering about....

[Athenais]

Back in the USSR and Blackbird are both songs about flight.
Putting it together:

Back in the US SR (71) Blackbird

A spy plane?



Brian Epstein was an MI5 agent.




Intelligence services tried to recruit Brian as executor of their plans for The Beatles.

Q: "Have you ever used or trained Beatle doubles as decoys on a..."

RINGO: "No."

JOHN: "No."

PAUL: "We tried to get Brian Epstein to do it... he wouldn't do it."

(laughter)


Los Angeles August 28 1966
www.geocities.com/~beatleboy1/dbla66.pc.html

Brian resisted plans to replace Paul with an impersonator.

The penalty for refusing to remain silent was death.



Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane
I can see the red tail lights heading for Spain
Oh and I can see Daniel waving goodbye
God it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes

They say Spain is pretty though I've never been
Well Daniel says it's the best place that he's ever seen
Oh and he should know, he's been there enough
Lord I miss Daniel, oh I miss him so much

Daniel my brother you are older than me
Do you still feel the pain of the scars that won't heal
Your eyes have died but you see more than I
Daniel you're a star in the face of the sky

Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane
I can see the red tail lights heading for Spain
Oh and I can see Daniel waving goodbye
God it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes
Oh God it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes

[nicolas]

dkorunic.net/gallery/album03/Museum05?set_fullOnly=on

That spy plane was one seat.

www.zolid.com/cirrus/books.htm

Maybe it was a PIPER YELLOW CAB instead....

from:

www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1177707,00.html

"The reason for Kubrick's annoyance in this particular letter was because he'd heard that the Beatles were going to use a landscape shot from Dr Strangelove in one of their movies: "The Beatle film will be very widely seen," Kubrick writes, "and it will make it appear that the material in Dr Strangelove is stock footage. I feel this harms the film."


Dr Strangelove plot:

U.S. Air Force Colonel Jack Ripper goes completely and utterly mad, and sends his bomber wing to destroy the U.S.S.R. He suspects that the communists are conspiring to pollute the "precious bodily fluids" of the American people. The U.S. president meets with his advisors, where the Soviet ambassador tells him that if the U.S.S.R. is hit by nuclear weapons, it will trigger a "Doomsday Machine" which will destroy all plant and animal life on Earth. Peter Sellers portrays the three men who might avert this tragedy: British Group Captain Lionel Mandrake, the only person with access to the demented Gen. Ripper; U.S. President Merkin Muffley, whose best attempts to divert disaster depend on placating a drunken Soviet Permier and the former Nazi genius Dr. Strangelove, who concludes that "such a device would not be a practical deterrent for reasons which at this moment must be all too obvious". Will the bombers be stopped in time, or will General Jack Ripper succeed in destroying the world ?





Q: "Have you ever used or trained Beatle doubles as decoys on a..."

RINGO: "No."

JOHN: "No."

PAUL: "We tried to get Brian Epstein to do it... he wouldn't do it."

(laughter)


Los Angeles August 28 1966
www.geocities.com/~beatleboy1/dbla66.pc.html


"We tried to get Brian Epstein to do it"

[Athenais]

nicolas said:

dkorunic.net/gallery/album03/Museum05?set_fullOnly=on

That spy plane was one seat.

Designed as a single seat reconnaissance aircraft, development began in 1958.

When the A-12 design proved successful, Kelly Johnson and the Skunkworks pushed for a variant that would be a high speed, high altitude interceptor, and a tactical bomber version. Johnson pressed the Air Force after testing proved successful. The Air Force was impressed and tentatively ordered 10 interceptors and 25 tactical bombers. The YF-12A, the interceptor version, would be a two seat aircraft utilizing look-down, shoot-down radar and air to air missiles. The second crewman would launch the missiles. Three YF-12A's were built. The bomber version was never built. The contract never became a reality, but did lead to development of the SR-71.

The Air Force decided to acquire a 2 seat reconnaissance version instead. Code named "Senior Crown", six of the super fast aircraft were ordered. Development began in 1961. The aircraft, later to be designated the SR-71, first flew on December 22, 1964. The SR-71 entered into service in January, 1966.
www.lowobservable.com/Blackbird.htm

Although much of the capabilities of the SR-71 are still unknown, it is believed that the aircraft could carry a 1-megaton nuclear device or advanced cameras, sensors and reconnaissance equipment. These systems gave the Blackbird the ability to perform surveillance of up to 80,000 square miles (207,000 sq km) per hour.
www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/recon/sr71/

[nicolas]

"Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane
I can see the red tail lights heading for Spain"

The Blackbird has no tail....

[Athenais]

Ever heard of artistic license?

[nicolas]

That on the "I Am The Walrus" video was an "upside-down flying" B-24 "Liberator".

Very Telling.

davidjenrette.smugmug.com/gallery/462630/1/18706085

[totalinfo]

it might be helpful if you bothered to explain where the Daniel/Spain lyrics (?) come from

[Athenais]

totalinfo said:

it might be helpful if you bothered to explain where the Daniel/Spain lyrics (?) come from

Simple google search should work...

[TheDZ]

..in the sky with diamonds?
www.habu.org/sr-71/17955.html


btw TI..Elton John - Daniel

[nicolas]

[Athenais]

I CAN REMEMBER (I remember)
Standing by the wall (by the wall)
And the guns shot above our heads
(over our heads)
And we kissed,
as though nothing could fall
(nothing could fall)
And the shame was on the other side
Oh we can beat them, for ever and ever
Then we could be Heroes,
just for one day


Brian Epstein, like Elton John's Daniel, loved taking trips to Spain.

Brian's trip to Spain with John stirred up a lot of questions about their relationship. I wonder if they returned there, did they go in secret?



PS...The actual vocal is "I can remember, standing by PAUL (by the wall)". Not hard to miss that one.

And this is another Bowie song that was most likely actually written by John Lennon...too personal for John to sing himself.

[Athenais]

Don't Dream It's Over - Crowded House

There is freedom within, there is freedom without
Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead, many battles are lost
But you'll never see the end of the road
While you're traveling with me

Hey now, hey now
Don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
We know they won't win

Now I'm towing my car, there's a hole in the roof
My possessions are causing me suspicion but there's no proof
In the paper today tales of war and of waste
But you turn right over to the T.V. page

Now I'm walking again to the beat of a drum
And I'm counting the steps to the door of your heart
Only shadows ahead barely clearing the roof
Get to know the feeling of liberation and relief

Hey now, hey now
Don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
Don't ever let them win